Why Elon is Wrong About Hydrogen Fuel

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A few weeks ago Wheelhouse made an episode about how Hydrogen cars were supposed to be the future of automobiles. And in that episode Nolan made a pretty good economic argument for why they failed. An argument that everyone’s favorite billionaire, Elon Musket, might agree with. But like all things car related, I get curious about the engineering side of things. Outside of politics, why couldn’t the car of the future be hydrogen powered? Well today on B2B we’re gonna take a look at hydrogen-fueled tech, and explain why Elon Musk might just be wrong about hydrogen cars.

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  1. DuhDuh

    DuhDuh

    2 саат мурун

    This is why Toyota is investing so much into R&D for hydrogen. and their reluctance, or don't-see-the-point of creating full EVs. EVs only took off cuz Tesla got a bunch of suckers to invest and they built the charging infrastructure themselves. If Toyota, or investors put at least one hydrogen pump at every other gas station, it would take over. 5 minute fuel up with capacitor charged electric motor torque? sign me up! Toyota's even R&D hydrogen combustion engines. I'd buy hydrogen stocks right now if I knew how stocks work.

  2. Hafidh Rindrahuttama

    Hafidh Rindrahuttama

    6 саат мурун

    Maybe it's like gasoline and diesel engine guys.. Not to compare which one people should to be choose...

  3. potatopotatoe

    potatopotatoe

    13 саат мурун

    This is why i don't believe this man is 20😧 so knowledgeable on this topic

  4. Ken MacMillan

    Ken MacMillan

    19 саат мурун

    You could easily run an internal combustion engine

  5. Alvin Biggs Jr

    Alvin Biggs Jr

    Күн мурун

    This might be my new favorite channel. 😲

  6. Ace_Falken

    Ace_Falken

    Күн мурун

    Modern Hydrogen electric tech is only competitive with decades old battery electric in terms of coat and efficiency. Hydrogen electric may make sense in hyper specific use cases, as it IS a green energy storage solution But for cars, modern batteries are better. Engineering explained channel has a wonderful video about this topic and I breaks down the numbers and science if anyone is interested.

  7. Nöelノエル

    Nöelノエル

    Күн мурун

    Jeremiah, you're my favourite on Donut. Keep up 👍

  8. Fry, Phillip J

    Fry, Phillip J

    Күн мурун

    So for passenger cars, you want to use electricity to produce hydrogen to power your car? instead of just using the electricity?

  9. Nick king

    Nick king

    Күн мурун

    This dude is incredible. Keep making content tom delongs little brother. Youre the man i learned alot

  10. Nick king

    Nick king

    Күн мурун

    Im intrigued, but if u say musk is wrong just throw yourself onto the pile of other neighsaying bodies yourself.

  11. Antho More

    Antho More

    2 күн мурун

    If they make hydrogen with fossil fuel i wouldn't approve or use but if made from solar or wind i will all for it. Solar make most of it power from morning to afternoon and wind work most of the time. The government have to be active with this and phase out of fossil for the most part in most field areas to meet 2050 goal.

  12. Korey Avery

    Korey Avery

    2 күн мурун

    Why not just run the hydrogen in place of gas in a normal combustion engine.

  13. Scott Kolaya

    Scott Kolaya

    2 күн мурун

    10:14 You just need to look at an interview with the Hyperion engineer to get into the science of how it does that. It's very simple actually, super expensive, but simple. Just like any other hand-made carbon fiber car and using titanium instead of cheaper aluminum for other parts, they get a super light car. That's adorable. It certainly is beautiful. Then you take this giant body and stick 2 seats in it and cram in storage tanks that probably don't pass crash tests nor protect the passengers from them and fill the rest of the cargo space with supercapacitors, you have yourself a 2 passenger car that can accelerate like there's no tomorrow and with long-range. You could take a Toyota Mirai and replace its Li-ion hybrid battery with low energy density supercapacitors and consume all the luggage space as well as the rear passenger room in order to get it to get out of its own way, but who would buy it? It already only has the interior space of a subcompact, you'd be turning it into less room than a smart car with the exterior dimensions of a full-size sedan.

  14. Fameboy Color

    Fameboy Color

    2 күн мурун

    My car goes to 60 mph in 10 secs, can I get a moment of silence too pls

  15. starmanovich

    starmanovich

    2 күн мурун

    That group hug

  16. Ferrocity Technologies

    Ferrocity Technologies

    2 күн мурун

    🤣 You're delusional.

  17. footballshowItaly

    footballshowItaly

    3 күн мурун

    Actually Anode is negative and Cathode is positive

  18. timothy clancy

    timothy clancy

    3 күн мурун

    Would have been a good vizuation if you weren't acting like a tool.

  19. Nedim Mutapčija

    Nedim Mutapčija

    3 күн мурун

    Imagine humidity levels if every car in the world would pee 5 gallons of water daily

  20. Brett C.

    Brett C.

    3 күн мурун

    $FCEL

  21. Stanley Cius

    Stanley Cius

    3 күн мурун

    I’m not blindly agreeing with Elon or anything but hydrogen fuel cells is just pointless in cars, I mean they still need batteries to function nor do they make engine sounds, so why not just batteries.

  22. Silentt Ivan

    Silentt Ivan

    4 күн мурун

    Oof

    • Engineering the weird guy

      Engineering the weird guy

      3 күн мурун

      Oof?

  23. El Batangueño

    El Batangueño

    4 күн мурун

    Hydrogen fueled vehicle has been introduced in the Philippines since the 1970's using a small and compact reactor, then there was another one who made it using electrolysis with just the use of a normal water filter container both tech just use the same concept using the Hydrogen from water as fuel and the Oxygen goes straight in the exhaust where it meets up again the used Hydrogen and the by-product is water again. The problem with this is that the normal car engine is designed to burn fossil fuel not Hydrogen so there is a reliability issue and you need to properly customize those supply hose from the source of the Hydrogen to the engine because one small leak can cause an explosion. The other problem is the Lack of support because this can create a huge impact on fossil fuel economy as a means of alternative fuel, "just imagine you ran out of water and the only thing you need to do is ask water and your good to go!" and the last problem is to why this didn't catch on is because of the inventors of this technology choose to be patriotic telling that the Filipino people should be the first one to benefit from this. click this for more info. kgkey.info/block/s3SAcdSPgbN1mnY/video.html

  24. Wendell Guo

    Wendell Guo

    4 күн мурун

    nah, I love Donut Media education bit, but Hydrogen comes from Natural Gas Companies owned by oil/energy companies. Tony Seba laid it out better: kgkey.info/block/k2Ogs57HqMSj2HY/video.html

  25. Mario Brandán

    Mario Brandán

    4 күн мурун

    The big issue with FC only cars is the power, the big issue with battery cars is the range, the combining both is the better choice. Toyota do it in the new Mirai, but they choice isn't focused on power.

    • Mario Brandán

      Mario Brandán

      21 саат мурун

      Back to the use of 2 types of batteries, the smartphones ones are guaranteed to have more than 70% of the original capacity with 500 to 7000 cycles. Getting the worse case in a car with 100 kWh and a consumption of 0.2 kWh/km you need to do 500 km for complete a cycle. If you do like 50000 km/year, you need 5 years until the car needs change the batteries. The batteries used in 1st gen Tesla model S are guaranteed for like 350000 km, but 250000 is already good

    • Mario Brandán

      Mario Brandán

      21 саат мурун

      You says that but at the same time you questions Toyota for using FC...

    • Engineering the weird guy

      Engineering the weird guy

      21 саат мурун

      @Mario Brandán car companies have already gone through the process of optimisation. Batteries are one of the most crucial components in any Electric Vehicle. Almost all the big Engineering goes into those batteries, battery selection, battery management systems, battery controls, etc etc etc

    • Engineering the weird guy

      Engineering the weird guy

      21 саат мурун

      @Mario Brandán no not quite, Smart Phone Batteries do not have the lifespan of the type Tesla use. Teslas would be scrapped for battery replacement within a couple of years. Thats not good design. Phones dont have to last very long, EV batteries do.

    • Mario Brandán

      Mario Brandán

      22 саат мурун

      You repeat the same thing again, I understand that and already know that FC cars needs batteries, but you still repeat the same against it and don't say anything about two types of batteries. Hypothetically, if you use smartphone batteries you can get 100 kWh with less than 350 kg while a Tesla with same energy capacity have 600 kg. And if you need the same performance of a Tesla (isn't possible with smartphone batteries), you can add LiPoFe4 batteries enough to get the same performance with less than 100 kg. The result? Combining 2 technologies (and without searching for a minimum weight mathematically) you can get 2 packs of batteries with the same energy (provided by the smartphones types) and same power (by the LiPoFe4 ones) with 150 kg less (including whires and cooling system)

  26. pangrac1

    pangrac1

    4 күн мурун

    You didn’t explained nothing. Result was just bullshit. Btw Volkswagen CEO Herbert Diess said several times that hydrogen in cars is dumb idea and you need listen to the science. ‘Listen to science’: Volkswagen CEO against hydrogen cars, Elon Musk agrees auto.hindustantimes.com/auto/news/listen-to-science-volkswagen-ceo-against-hydrogen-cars-elon-musk-agrees-41621579993404.html

  27. Brad Steeg

    Brad Steeg

    4 күн мурун

    Hydrogen cars probably exist because the auto industry didn't anticipate rapidly falling battery and solar pv costs. So instead of the hydrogen economy we get the hydrogen agronomy.

  28. The Bunz

    The Bunz

    4 күн мурун

    Isn't the problem with hydrogen fuel that it takes more energy to separate it than you get by reacting it?

  29. Cole Wonsey

    Cole Wonsey

    4 күн мурун

    Isn’t cummins pushing hard for hydrogen engines?

  30. shmutube

    shmutube

    4 күн мурун

    Pound for pound, I think it will take about 15 years for batteries to have the same power density as hydrogen... More immediately, hydrogen fuel cell technology can be used immediately and really would be best for heavy duty purposes like big rigs, aircraft, Earth moving equipment, whole house generator, etc...

  31. Tom Wwabo

    Tom Wwabo

    5 күн мурун

    There is an awesome solution to the lacking infrastructure: The Fraunhofer Institute for Material Science, recently published a Magnesium based paste to store hydrogen for multiple years, it is an easily transportable liquid and has a similar energy density to gasoline. The Magnesium can be reused. www.ifam.fraunhofer.de/de/Institutsprofil/Standorte/Dresden/Wasserstofftechnologie/hydrolyse.html www.fraunhofer.de/de/presse/presseinformationen/2021/februar-2021/wasserstoffantriebe-fuer-e-scooter-und-co.html

  32. Dolf

    Dolf

    5 күн мурун

    The club music is actually pretty good. I like it.

  33. Jimenez 136

    Jimenez 136

    5 күн мурун

    You should talk about Toyota's new hydrogen combustion engine!!!

  34. alnoutbreak

    alnoutbreak

    5 күн мурун

    I know it's not technically about cars, but how difficult would it be to refit gasoline stations into hydrogen? Change of tank and pump?

  35. Patrick Phelan

    Patrick Phelan

    5 күн мурун

    Why is technology fixated on H powered electric cars? How about "water cracking" technology to burn H in a combustion engine, where the waste product is oxygen?

    • Patrick Phelan

      Patrick Phelan

      4 күн мурун

      @Engineering the weird guy www.researchgate.net/publication/332413579_Review_of_Hydrogen_Fuel_for_Internal_Combustion_Engines

    • Engineering the weird guy

      Engineering the weird guy

      4 күн мурун

      Wat

  36. Reiskanen

    Reiskanen

    5 күн мурун

    I mean they laughed at Elon when he was creating electrical cars so…

    • Stanley Cius

      Stanley Cius

      3 күн мурун

      @Joseph Blow really, I’m sure deep down you understand what the he/she was trying to say so I won’t bother.

    • Joseph Blow

      Joseph Blow

      4 күн мурун

      Is that what you’ve heard? I heard someone else created the concept of the electric performance car, created the battery literally that runs it. Musk put up some money and then forced the guy who created the car out of the company. The dude’s a conman. Before you say how come he’s a rich and Tesla stock is high, just remember Bernie Madoff, Enron, Worldcom were all doing great till they weren’t doing great.

  37. J.s.

    J.s.

    6 күн мурун

    its a competitor to electric cars, of course elon is gonna crap all over it. the elon fanboys keep forgetting that elon has to promote his companies. look at lidar, elon been crapping over that for a decade, but now most of the car companies are using lidar or lidar maps for self driving

    • Engineering the weird guy

      Engineering the weird guy

      5 күн мурун

      All that besides the point of this video however, as Elon was emphatically correct about hydrogen. It’s stupid. I can explain all the reason why if you don’t believe me.

    • Engineering the weird guy

      Engineering the weird guy

      5 күн мурун

      Meanwhile Tesla’s are fast approaching self driving using $3 cameras which isn’t geofenced and restricted to mapped areas and can recognise street signs such as roadwork signs and changed speed limited and can recognise repainted road lines or traffic cones, instead of a $2,500 Lidar set up that has to be restricted to already mapped areas which take several people several hundred rounds of driving on company pay to map an small area because lidar can’t read street signs, make out road lines or street cones.

  38. Tony Rock

    Tony Rock

    6 күн мурун

    ELON MUSK is positioned for hydrogen cars. All he needs to fo is add the fuel celss instead of batteries.

    • Engineering the weird guy

      Engineering the weird guy

      6 күн мурун

      Well you’d actually need to keep half the batteries, add fuel cell and add fuel storage and add additional coolant systems then redesign the chassis to protect the fuel tanks against explosion and to be corrosive resistant to continuous exposure to water vapour.

  39. Tyler Titus

    Tyler Titus

    6 күн мурун

    Alternative title: "WhY wE nO sCieNce oR MatHs goOd w tEh hyDrogEnz"

  40. sagi Stark

    sagi Stark

    6 күн мурун

    im just laughing by looking at this guy . How dumb his statement is . if hydrogen production cause Carbon monoxide and carbon di oxide , then how are they successfull 🤣🤣

    • TOYOTA Boyz

      TOYOTA Boyz

      6 күн мурун

      EV cars are produced by factories ran by fossil fuels, not 100% renewable energy like they claim. They’re destroying wild life in desserts and forests to build these factories. EV production uses more fossil fuels than fkn gasoline itself! Other rare minerals are consumed in this process just to produce low to no em emission vehicles but at the expense of destroying the planet even more.

  41. Lord of Strangburg

    Lord of Strangburg

    6 күн мурун

    With all that water on the road wouldn’t it cause ICE build up in cold seasons in some states ?

  42. gonzalo moreno andonaegui

    gonzalo moreno andonaegui

    6 күн мурун

    I love to see Donut Media making more videos about EVs

  43. TomatoDrifter

    TomatoDrifter

    7 күн мурун

    I just want Donut to know that we love JareBear and B2B

  44. DS's videoblogs

    DS's videoblogs

    7 күн мурун

    Why can't we mix hydrogen car and ev. Like a hybrid.

  45. Franklin Araujo

    Franklin Araujo

    7 күн мурун

    I think battery-powered electric cars need fewer parts than a hydrogen car. If you are going to produce hydrogen you need energy that usually comes from fossil fuel and even if it is renewable you will need a network just for the production of hydrogen which would make the fuel cost high (but could change over time). The storage and transport of hydrogen is another problem as it is highly explosive and requires noble metals. Now production is made from hydrocarbons (methane) and petroleum derivatives.

    • Engineering the weird guy

      Engineering the weird guy

      6 күн мурун

      Battery electric cars *do* have fewer parts than hydrogen cars.

  46. Costea Ciprian

    Costea Ciprian

    7 күн мурун

    Elon is not wrong about Hydrogen, but you are wrong, think twice

  47. Eskel the Scottish Railway Enthusiast and Roblox

    Eskel the Scottish Railway Enthusiast and Roblox

    7 күн мурун

    The thumbnail made me laugh xD

  48. Jesler Alimes

    Jesler Alimes

    7 күн мурун

    Your BF/GF explanation makes it even more confusing.

  49. Nick

    Nick

    7 күн мурун

    Every time I hear the word "Electrolyte" I just think of Tropic Thunder.

  50. Ilias MOUSSAOUI

    Ilias MOUSSAOUI

    7 күн мурун

    Them analogies 👌🏼

  51. That's Interesting.

    That's Interesting.

    8 күн мурун

    I don't get it tho Elon is right. if we use up all the hydrogen, we wont have water.

  52. Bath Tub

    Bath Tub

    8 күн мурун

    He missed an important part. Electrolysis of water is very energy inefficient process with very high electricity requirements. We would rather use electricity to directly charge the batteries.

  53. Demi404

    Demi404

    8 күн мурун

    Instead of producing electricity with the hydrogen why not burn it.

    • Engineering the weird guy

      Engineering the weird guy

      7 күн мурун

      Less efficient. Less performance and even less lifespan

  54. Joshua Schofield

    Joshua Schofield

    8 күн мурун

    Use electricity to power your car, or use electricity to create hydrogen that is converted back to electricity via an onboard system that then powers your car...yeah the choice is simple. Hydrogen cars are supported by companies that want to distribute hydrogen. Simple physics people. Give up the stupid hydrogen car arguments.

  55. Steve

    Steve

    8 күн мурун

    1 in 44 hate this video

    • Steve

      Steve

      8 күн мурун

      Because its TRASH!!!

  56. Oscar Garcia

    Oscar Garcia

    8 күн мурун

    1 important thing to remember is you can store Hydrogen as a solid too using a metal complex. Also you don't need water to get hydrogen, you can fish it out of other substances too

  57. pheoix

    pheoix

    9 күн мурун

    Another advantage is that is way ahead in terms of energy storage. Batteries degrade over time. Hydrogen can be stores endlessly with no energy loss. It can solve storage for renewable energy. Fuel cells are also getting smaller and more compact. Also I always thought as ev to be a stepping stone to hydrogen Evs.

    • Engineering the weird guy

      Engineering the weird guy

      8 күн мурун

      Well no actually. While batteries do degrade over time, storing Energy as hydrogen has two fundamental drawbacks. 1.) it’s inefficient, you lose around 60% of the energy by storing it as hydrogen. Producing hydrogen has a 30% loss, and converting it back into electricity has a 40% loss. You’d have to store energy in a battery for decades before it becomes worthwhile to store it as hydrogen. And that’s also ignoring losses from liquefying, compressing and transport of hydrogen. 2.) you can’t actually contain hydrogen. Hydrogen atoms are so small that they can leak through solid metal. You can design special tanks out of exotic materials to mitigate this but you can’t stop it as the atoms are too small. Additionally in the process of hydrogen interacting with/leaking through metal. It embrittles it. Meaning the longer you store it, the weaker it gets until it fails.

  58. Devin Allen

    Devin Allen

    9 күн мурун

    Love this channel but y’all got so much wrong on here it’s just cringey to watch. At least get your basics correct if you’re this big a channel smh

  59. nick levi

    nick levi

    9 күн мурун

    As much as i like you guys, but a car enthusiasts youtube channel cant beat automotive companies and even a whole nation of japan on research and reasoning. Now imagine if japan govt make a video reply to you guys, complete with their achievement so far. For a video channel, this is to aggressive 😆🙏

  60. Ryan Cipriani

    Ryan Cipriani

    9 күн мурун

    @3:40 Seems that's backwards. Electrons travel from the negative terminal to the positive.

  61. Nick Bonardi

    Nick Bonardi

    9 күн мурун

    He didn't even acknowledge any of the arguments against hydrogen, then concluded that Elon is wrong.

  62. Elfie Huber

    Elfie Huber

    9 күн мурун

    What did i learn from this? Well H2 / fuel cell is still no threat to batteries and our favourite billionaire is still right. BUT Donut Media is definitely a serious threat to mainstream media entertainment programs.

  63. Andrew Beaton

    Andrew Beaton

    9 күн мурун

    STORAGE< SAFELY... Not there yet. Each one of these would be a ticking time bomb in accidents... BUT IF THEY were able to "SCIENCE THE SHIT out of this." . This coming from a guy who blew up his first 4 hydrogen Wet cells in 2013. BTW Got 63 mpg from 28. Hydrogen is so dangerous! It was like a grenade of sodium hydroxide (ACID) and ELECTROLYTES going off under my hood twice, and twice in the face! LMAO. Luckily still have a face! I'm spooked after those lol. I support water gas.

  64. Hein Htet Aung

    Hein Htet Aung

    9 күн мурун

    I don’t see water I saw threesome.

  65. Nagy Andras

    Nagy Andras

    9 күн мурун

    not..that easy. its problematic to store hydrogen. and its allso a low energy density thing. look up NH3 association and NH3 based fuel cells. now thats the deal, only 10 bar pressure required and far more energy dense than hydrogen or lithium battery stuff. with all the advantages.

  66. Nicholas Langton

    Nicholas Langton

    9 күн мурун

    You literally just explained hydrogen in a a goofy way and basically did not address why it is inferior to electric.

  67. zeed stun

    zeed stun

    9 күн мурун

    I dont get it. Why would i go with hydrogen to power the battery when i can skip the hydrogen and just go straight to the battery? You still need that battery no matter what. I still think battery hot swapping is the greater future.

  68. Pine Tree

    Pine Tree

    9 күн мурун

    Why can’t we just use hydrogen in an internal combustion engine? Why convert it to electricity?

  69. Zane Courtney

    Zane Courtney

    9 күн мурун

    It's more likely to kick out gasoline than EV's. Just replace the gas at existing stations with hydrogen and the infrastructure problem mostly solves itself. It just comes down to startup cost at the moment.

    • Engineering the weird guy

      Engineering the weird guy

      9 күн мурун

      Hydrogen cannot use existing infrastructure. The nearest you're going to get is LPG infrastructure. However here is why that cant work. 1.) Hydrogen atoms are so small that they can leak through solid metal. not only would the containment and hoses for LPG not be suitable for this but neither would the gaskets and seals. It would leak like a pasta strainer, which is significant for a highly explosive gas with no smell. not only that but when it does leak through metal it embrittles it. significantly weakening the metal. 2.) Liquid Hydrogen needs to be stored at over 32 times the pressure of LPG. This means that the containment vessels, even if they were made of a hydrogen suitable material would not be suitable for hydrogen as it would not be able to contain the pressures required. 3.) Hydrogen has a very low inversion temperature. The inversion temperature is the temperature at which a gas goes from super cooling as its decompressed to superheating. that means whilst LPG infrastructure is designed to handle decreasing temperatures as the gas is transported or drained. Hydrogen heat up the infrastructure which means they are fundamentally incompatible. All this means is that you would have to build and entire hydrogen infrastructure *from scratch.* To install hydrogen at an existing fuel station you would need to bury it, not just install new hoses or pumps. You need to buy hydrogen because of how explosive it is. This means you would have to demolish the existing fuel station and re-build it from the ground up.... for every fuel station. meanwhile you can easily add a super charger or destination charger at any location which has electricity for a fraction of the cost, time, effort. Including any fuel station.

  70. Aleko117

    Aleko117

    9 күн мурун

    7:13 lmfao

  71. FZMello

    FZMello

    10 күн мурун

    Aside from the infrastructure issue is that the hydrogen fuel cells take up a lot of space in the car and would outweigh the engine and gas tank they're trying to supplant. Then there's the cost. Hydrogen is rather expensive and hard to find commercially. Not to mention, the catalytic units will have to be replaced every so often, just like a catalytic converter, but at even greater cost. Next issue is that, in case of an accident, your car stands a very good chance of becoming the Hindenburg. Hydrogen burns very hot and very fast, and iirc, fire in the fuel cells can release some very toxic smoke, fumes and vapors from the materials involved. Lastly, I think he enjoyed dressing up as a girl just a little too much.

  72. quintespeed

    quintespeed

    10 күн мурун

    If it’s as expensive as gasoline now, what’s the point? Who can fill up their hydrogen car at home? They better step it up or “Elon” will leave ’em in the dust.

  73. ez45

    ez45

    10 күн мурун

    Less looks like this:

  74. IamTimEre

    IamTimEre

    10 күн мурун

    10min in, still not sure why hydrogen is bad...

  75. Xn Chen

    Xn Chen

    10 күн мурун

    The lack of power for any electrical motor is usually caused by battery's internal resistance. With hydrogen ev, the resistance is created by the slow moving rate of H ions. But capacitor don't have internal resistance. Why didn't they hook up a capacitor in parallel to the hydrogen cells, so that it does the fast discharge during acceleration and accumulates energy during low speed and even speed conditions?

  76. Syliss

    Syliss

    10 күн мурун

    Are these cars going to have an exhaust spitting water?

  77. Leon Laubscher

    Leon Laubscher

    10 күн мурун

    This video seriously missed the mark. No comparison of costs? No mention of the inefficiency of using electricity to produce hydrogen then using that hydrogen to generate electricity to run the car...vs just using electricity straight to run a car. The arguments used against EV's, like limited range, charging times, charging infrastructure, are fast becoming non-issues as the tech matures. H2 has potential in long-range trucking, shipping, etc. but it's safe to say EV's have won the passenger vehicle battle. I'm siding with Elon on this one and I'm far from being his biggest fan.

    • Aarya Kshirsagar

      Aarya Kshirsagar

      10 күн мурун

      Bro it's b2b, he just talks about the technology of the car if you want to see price comparison and their efficiency go watch wheelhouse by nolan like he mentioned in the start.

  78. Bryan Escamilla

    Bryan Escamilla

    10 күн мурун

    I worked at in a warehouse that used Hydrogen Fuel Cells to power forklifts. The refueling was quick and easy but boy did those things break down an awful lot. I mean there was almost always a queue of around 10-15 broken down at a time and the technicians could only fix about 2-5 a day by my estimates.

  79. ok dude

    ok dude

    10 күн мурун

    Cuz I'm going to believe that you guys know more than Elon

  80. Aman Pandey

    Aman Pandey

    10 күн мурун

    Now that's how you make ads. Take notes guys!

  81. Ace Ggkspade

    Ace Ggkspade

    10 күн мурун

    That survey was before 2018 when the Tesla rocked the car industry. I bet they aren’t saying that anymore

  82. Nick Barba

    Nick Barba

    10 күн мурун

    bmw is already ready to go with fuel cell tech. waiting on the global market to be "ready"

    • Engineering the weird guy

      Engineering the weird guy

      10 күн мурун

      In the meantime they’ve released a range of battery electric vehicles including and electric M3

  83. Bal Loney

    Bal Loney

    10 күн мурун

    This hydro tech should happen otherwise we continue to ruin our climate and besides lithium production will erode and it will be impossible to sustain EV batteries.

  84. Bal Loney

    Bal Loney

    10 күн мурун

    No need for actor(s) for analogy, the graphics are good enough.

  85. sandas turner

    sandas turner

    10 күн мурун

    Well, my worry is how are batteries for evs going to impact the environment vs the inefficiency of hydrogen (and scarceness of it). Also, regenerative braking and solar panels on a hydrogen car would also help.

  86. Kevin B

    Kevin B

    10 күн мурун

    you lose energy making h2, just to make electricity... to charge a small battery. lol its an wasteful ev. I work with h2 powered equipment. they are junk and have been scrapped at the neighboring facility. so much waste to avoid a bigger battery, with battery swaps its as quick as fueling. h2 fuel stations often have issues same with the cells themselves. if I get through a shift without having a code set off its a miracle!

  87. Carlos Rodriguez

    Carlos Rodriguez

    10 күн мурун

    Another useful phrase besides PANIC - LEO goes GER (loss of electrons is oxidation, gain of electrons is reduction)

  88. Tesla

    Tesla

    10 күн мурун

    no

  89. Yuvraj Thakur

    Yuvraj Thakur

    10 күн мурун

    A lot of viewer time was wasted in the viewing of this video.

  90. 808kahulaa

    808kahulaa

    10 күн мурун

    Hydrogen been touted as the solution, battery tech came and turned it into a afterthought. If someone wanted hydrogen to happen, it would have happened. It’s bunk tech, losses and changes are too much. Elon’s right up until now. Future might tell otherwise but all legacy makers are following Tesla’s lead with batteries, not Toyota’s with fuel cells.

  91. CHE Guevara

    CHE Guevara

    11 күн мурун

    Makes no sense, the energy you need to obtain the Hydrogen is way to high, plus then you carry around all that equipment in form of a fuel cell, it is not efficient, electric cars are much more simple, less parts, it is basically a battery and motors, simple to maintain and more reliable. If anything if you have a cheap way to obtain Hydrogen, then it may make sense to put a big fuel cell at the pump, then produce electricity that can charge the cars.

  92. Bujf vjg

    Bujf vjg

    11 күн мурун

    The BMW Hydrogen 7 actually COMBUSTS HYDROGEN! A 6 liter V12 burning hydrogen!

  93. FileNotFound__

    FileNotFound__

    11 күн мурун

    So I googled "what makes more co2, a car or a cow" and I got this answer "It's been estimated that methane gas from cows is 23 times more damaging to the climate than the carbon dioxide from cars." So why dfaq are you trying to fix cars, Don't just ignore the real problem ffs.

    • lawnmowerdude

      lawnmowerdude

      9 күн мурун

      Firstly this answer you found should be looked into further to determine it accuracy. Secondly, cars and cows are both issues and there are enough people on the planet to work on both problems at the same time. Plus you’re watching a car channel and not a farming channel so that’s why they are not talking about cows. A immediate solution would be to drive stinky cars less and east less tasty meat but we both know that’s not going to happen.

  94. Josh VS

    Josh VS

    11 күн мурун

    the politics ideas for the next goverment in my country could make this actually possible and OBLIGATORY at some point. Costa Rica might not be the best example of a rich country for sure but we are having tons of issues on petroleum products and industries for years. sooooooo, let's see what happens, we are the guinea pig here.

  95. Unholy Tendencies

    Unholy Tendencies

    11 күн мурун

    happy pride

  96. Adrian Moreno

    Adrian Moreno

    11 күн мурун

    the hydrogen atom is a fucking simp

  97. Paul Gregory Iwankow

    Paul Gregory Iwankow

    11 күн мурун

    Electricity to Hydrogen to car storage tank to fuel cell to battery to motor rather than Electricity to car Battery to motor. 🤔

    • Paul Gregory Iwankow

      Paul Gregory Iwankow

      11 күн мурун

      First principles people we don't need a Rube Goldberg machine, we need transportation that is simple to maintain

  98. Peter Rullmann

    Peter Rullmann

    11 күн мурун

    Okay, you didn't even touch efficiency, the most important argument against hydrogen. 🤔 And your main argument is that old-school car execs say it has a bright future... ?!

    • panzerclaws claws

      panzerclaws claws

      10 күн мурун

      @Raghu Sajeev Agree, is not as convenient as an plug-in vehicle that you can just charge at home while sleeping.

    • Raghu Sajeev

      Raghu Sajeev

      11 күн мурун

      Exactly. Hydrogen is just an EV with extra steps. And, it's not economical to scale. Much easier to produce and transport a lot of electricity than Hydrogen

  99. Paul Gregory Iwankow

    Paul Gregory Iwankow

    11 күн мурун

    EV owners can produce their own fuel. Hydrogen owners can pay for Hydrogen, let's see who's backing this movement, ohhhh the oil companies I wonder why.

  100. Paul Gregory Iwankow

    Paul Gregory Iwankow

    11 күн мурун

    No I don't own a Tesla

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